How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

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Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

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Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

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ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

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Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

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ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

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Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Why do men like to have sex with a woman's ass?

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

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I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Do opposites attract? How often do you see weird couples like a guy/girl dating someone who is boring with no sense of humor ?

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

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ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

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ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

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ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

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ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

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Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

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Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Now here in this verse

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

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As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

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Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

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Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

I am like a fish out of water,

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

then who is there to know what happens without?

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Sain (a barber)

Kabir (a weaver)

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

CONCLUSION:

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

NOW…

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.